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Article: 13502 of comp.protocols.kermit.misc
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.hpux,comp.protocols.kermit.misc
From: mnahkola@aurinko.ntc.nokia.com
Subject: Re: Need Kermit Diskette for HP-9816 200/300 BASIC Workstation
References: <afsu37$qtp$1@watsol.cc.columbia.edu> <3D222449.7488@unixnerd.demon.co.uk> <aftdrs$dgq$1@watsol.cc.columbia.edu> <e1xU8.8556$ZE1.180195@news1.nokia.com> <n6u1nhf2br.fsf@it.jyu.fi>
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In article <n6u1nhf2br.fsf@it.jyu.fi>, tt+gn20020703T145610@it.jyu.fi wrote:
> mnahkola@aurinko.ntc.nokia.com writes:
>> In article <aftdrs$dgq$1@watsol.cc.columbia.edu>, Frank da Cruz wrote:
>> > John Burns <john@unixnerd.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> >: > On behalf of a user who badly needs to get some scientific data into and
>> >: > out of an HP 9816 Series 200/300 BASIC workstation. We have the Kermit
>> >: > program for his computer here:
>
>> Several of HP's proprietary boxes used LIF floppies. Those can be handled
>> by HP-UX tools - indeed, the HP-UX on-disk boot area is a LIF
>> "filesystem" too. So you might have some luck in writing the stuff to a
>> floppy on a HP-UX box using lifcp.
>
> Yep, that should work, although unless I'm badly mistaken the 9816
> only understands 720kB floppies. Finding an HP-UX box with floppy
> drive may not be trivial however.
But finding one that has an empty connector for a PC floppy drive should
be quite easy... easier than finding a working SCSI floppy drive, I'd
say.
>> And there's a Linux LIF-utility set too somewhere on the 'net, if you
>> don't have a HP-UX box available.
> The one such utility I'm familiar with is designed for HP9144 floppy
> drive using somewhat unusual format (256-byte sectors) which may
> not work in the 9121 drive used in the 9816.
The one at http://www.hpcc.org/hpil/lif_utils.html ? Oh well ... I didn't
see that mentioned on the page, and indeed, I can't seem to read a HP-UX
-written LIF floppy with those.
And the stuff at
http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/Uni/RZ/Betriebssysteme/HP-UX/lif/ don't seem
to work right for me, I managed to mangle my test LIF floppy pretty bad
with them but that may be due to the laptop's odd floppy drive too... and
besides there's no lifinit there. In any case, _reading_ from a
HP-UX-created LIF floppy seems to work, it's the writing part that has
problems... if it were the other way round this might have been sort of a
solution.
In any case, the DOS utility set seems to be still available at
ftp://ftp.mcc.ac.uk/pub/dos/ ... wonder if it would run under dosemu...
--
Mikko Nahkola <mikko.nahkola@nokia.com>
My ideas, not my employer's. No warranty. YMMV.
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